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Post by pete1951 on Mar 30, 2023 19:26:07 GMT
I come to this from experience in standard acoustic guitars and a few resonators. Michael has seen ( probably) hundreds of resonators and has seen what under stringing can do.
It is very hard , without strain gauges and an engineering degree to predict the stress on the biscuit and cone. Under stringing may, with light strings, put too much pressure on the cone.
If you have done some experiments that show or can predict the pressure,carry on, otherwise, as Michael says “ Don’t under string” Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 30, 2023 19:37:14 GMT
'lo- i believe these are string w/ light gage strings from the factory-so wouldn't just heavier strings like 15-56 work better than 'under stringing' the guitar? Actually understringing the guitar w/ lighter gauge strings is safe because the tension is lower so no issues here. No it is not safe! It is never safe to do this with a resonator guitar. Shine On Michael
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 30, 2023 19:40:27 GMT
'lo-wondering if anyone has ever heard of stringing a reso (wood body or metal) w/ the strings going under the tail piece instead of over top as per usual-what would be the purpose of doing that? The purpose would be so you could switch to Lighter Gauge strings w/o sacrificing the loss of volume. If your guitar is set up properly for use with light gauge strings, then it will be fine and it will play and sound great. You do not need a steep break angle for light strings, just maybe slightly more angle, that is all. Shine On Michael.
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Post by slide496 on Mar 30, 2023 19:54:40 GMT
'lo- i believe these are string w/ light gage strings from the factory-so wouldn't just heavier strings like 15-56 work better than 'under stringing' the guitar? I think they are constructed with flimsier materials when they are understrung and meant to be kept exactly as they are set up pretty much. People complain about the tailpiece breaking on the understrung Gretch. Other Recording King models are overstrung but in the case of the understrung Recording King Parlor O shape resonator line they took the same O shape and materials they built their dirty30s line of flat tops and the metal parts are very light - the whole thing is about 3-4 lbs. I keep 12-54 on it and don't tune it above D. Harriet
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 13:58:02 GMT
Actually understringing the guitar w/ lighter gauge strings is safe because the tension is lower so no issues here. No it is not safe! It is never safe to do this with a resonator guitar. Shine On Michael That's because the Tailpiece would snap, it would have to be made out of a stronger metal like stainless steel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 13:58:35 GMT
'lo- i believe these are string w/ light gage strings from the factory-so wouldn't just heavier strings like 15-56 work better than 'under stringing' the guitar? I think they are constructed with flimsier materials when they are understrung and meant to be kept exactly as they are set up pretty much. People complain about the tailpiece breaking on the understrung Gretch. Other Recording King models are overstrung but in the case of the understrung Recording King Parlor O shape resonator line they took the same O shape and materials they built their dirty30s line of flat tops and the metal parts are very light - the whole thing is about 3-4 lbs. I keep 12-54 on it and don't tune it above D. Harriet For E Standard I'd switch over to 10s or thinner
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 13:59:07 GMT
The purpose would be so you could switch to Lighter Gauge strings w/o sacrificing the loss of volume. If your guitar is set up properly for use with light gauge strings, then it will be fine and it will play and sound great. You do not need a steep break angle for light strings, just maybe slightly more angle, that is all. Shine On Michael. Slightly more break angle, so the lighter the string gauge the sharper the angle needs to be for it to work right.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 1, 2023 14:38:38 GMT
I'm beginning to think that us old gits who've been playing and tweaking guitars for decades don't know nuffink.
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 1, 2023 16:35:37 GMT
No it is not safe! It is never safe to do this with a resonator guitar. Shine On Michael That's because the Tailpiece would snap, it would have to be made out of a stronger metal like stainless steel. It has nothing to do with the tailpiece snapping. That is not what happens. I have already explained what happens and it has nothing to do with the tailpiece.. Shine On Michael
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