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Post by supertone on Jul 5, 2015 19:57:23 GMT
Hi,new member...am about to start building a wooden Tricone.Anyone else built one....are there any blueprints....it's body shape,screen size and cover plate shape ,I really need.Weight of an original T bridge and weght of a new one,if different....any info ,tips or pitfalls would be appreciated. Also...does anyone know of any current pictures of Tampa Red's guitar....the one that is ,or was in the museum ,in Seattle. Thanks..Dave.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 20:40:57 GMT
Have you built a guitar before? If yes, maybe you could buy a tricone, get all the specs off it, then sell it on. If no, I think you need to experiment a bit first before being hung up on details. TT
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Post by supertone on Jul 5, 2015 22:23:57 GMT
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Post by Misterkevster on Jul 5, 2015 22:55:33 GMT
IMO.....Don't be discouraged....info is out there....go for the best you can find!!
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Post by davidbenson on Jul 6, 2015 10:07:07 GMT
I seem to recollect video of wooden tricone build on Reso Hangout and blueprints for beard or stumac kit whuch is no longer available.
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Post by davidbenson on Jul 6, 2015 10:09:20 GMT
In this connection does anyone have any wisdom on whether national tricone bridge is worth the money?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 10:15:54 GMT
Stew Mac DIY Reso GuideThis might be a start... although it would be useful to know the OP's build experience. Also, this came up earlier (much earlier) in this forum, but it looks like the people who posted are no longer members: Tricone build question
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 10:36:25 GMT
Supertone shouldn't be put off making one, but the results will depend completely on his build experience. My first guitars were lousy, but the ones I make now are pretty good (there's still much room for improvement). There's no point us offering any specific advice until he tells us his build experience. TT
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Post by Dessery on Jul 6, 2015 11:50:56 GMT
Hi This is completely not my area of expertise but this might useful to you: luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29796Not much in the way of tech specs but if you ask the question there you might get some advice. Good luck!! All the best David
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Post by supertone on Jul 6, 2015 13:29:49 GMT
Hi,I've been playing ,building ,and restoring vintage guitars for 40 years.
However,I've never had the slightest interest in Nationals,but Tampa Red sounds better and better,the older I get......SO.....I've been pondering the Tricone,and got some different ideas I'd like to try out. Certain ways of adjusting the tone ......basically...I'm looking to get,as close as possible to Tampa Red's tone......SO....I would be grateful for any information on the finer aspects of building a Tricone,any tips or insights from anyone whose ever built one,that was as good as, or better than, a good,vintage Tricone.I've searched the internet,everywhere I could think of and have been collecting info for a few weeks and just stumbled on this site.I hope the National cones are as good they're made out to be,the price seems to be way,way over the top ,for what they actually are.Couldn't justify the bridge price though,I'll find some way around that.
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Post by Misterkevster on Jul 6, 2015 15:14:48 GMT
Good for you Supertone....I suspect that you'll get excellent results FIRST time around!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 15:34:39 GMT
"I would be grateful for any information on the finer aspects of building a Tricone,any tips or insights from anyone whose ever built one,that was as good as, or better than, a good,vintage Tricone." That's a tall order! As for the cones being overpriced for what they are - maybe so. But are you assuming they are just a bit of bog-standard pressed aluminium? Are you thinking of making the cone yourself? A lot of skilled engineering goes into the best ones. A lot of skilled engineering goes into some pretty average ones too. Seriously, I wish you the best of luck. Let us know how you get along. TT
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Post by Stevie on Jul 6, 2015 16:27:53 GMT
Anyone that has been building instruments for over 40 years must surely have come across Melvin H-I-S-C-O-C-K's * brilliant book " Make Your Own Acoustic Guitar". There is specific information on the construction of a single cone within that mighty tome, and I commend it heartily.
You know how a pottery spinning neophyte presses a little too hard and a promising potential heirloom disintegrates into a Quatermass experiment? Well you ought to see how a spun aluminium cone (made with material that is probably only 0.008" thick) goes awry in unskilled hands. How many an hour do you reckon can be spun (not forgetting the swagings) and with that in mind, how much would you think is a suitable income for such a skilled person spread in hourly increments? Factor in material cost, lubricants, hand tools and investment in the relevant machinery, taxes, business rates (and not to forget a little profit too!)
I'm going to assume that you have held a cone in your hands? Feels like these cones are made from take-away curry tins, right!
The cone is hint that these instruments have more in common with machines than they do with examples of the luthier's art. Search the Forum for discussions on the use of "tonewoods" in the construction of resos for more. The resonator body is more akin to a loudspeaker enclosure than it is to a conventional guitar body.
I'd start off by trying to convert an old wood bodied beater to a wood bodied single cone if I were you. You will find a great deal more help available both on here and in Melvin's excellent book, and it will prepare you for the tri-plate too.
Like deuce, I'm keen to see you succeed, please give us regular updates.
(* You have to find some way to circumvent the puerile Proboards response to writing his name in a post!)
e&oe...
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Post by pete1951 on Jul 6, 2015 17:42:48 GMT
Stevie has said what I was going to. I have made single cones from scratch and converted several `normal` guitars. My only tricone sounded bad, and was more work. This was some time ago, and another tricone is planned. I think it would be best to sit down with someone who has made one with a sheet of paper and talk it through. PT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 18:16:01 GMT
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