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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 23:03:41 GMT
Yes, yet another Diamond slide thread. But I've been through most of the others and haven't found the info I'm looking for, namely, how to wade through all the various options on offer.
I'm planning to order two for a start, a long one and a short one.
I do know the interior dimension I need (the same as the Dunlop 215, which fits my pinky perfectly, I believe that's 20mm).
But: How long or short should I go? I think the Dunlop is a bit longer than I need (It's 69mm, I'd be tempted to go down to 65 or 60). I'd also like a shorter slide for the many songs when the slide only happens on the treble strings -- what's a good size for that?
Next: Notch or no notch? I've never played with one before -- are there people who DON'T like this?
And then there's the profile -- I'm guessing the Dunlop is rolled, and that seems fine to me. What are the advantages of the other profiles? The straight cut seems too...straight. The bevel seems like it could be interesting.
The interesting news is their French workshop is less than an hour from my place...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 7:58:55 GMT
I've got a few now, going from light, medium to heavy weight (all with a notch).
I usually use the light one, occasionally the medium one. The heavy one is beaut but its a bit too heavy for more than tooling around - YMMV.
As for size, if they are a bit loose, just stick a chair leg felt pad inside.
I didn't know they had a workshop in France. If so, the only problem with that would be that Mr McWee wouldn't be there to give you that black country welcome.
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Post by Ian McWee on Jun 27, 2015 9:47:20 GMT
Nah ~ you'll get a proper Black Country welcome down in Brux - Brett's a Dudley Mon, born 'n bred!!  The Dunlop #215 is indeed 20mm internal diameter with a slide length of 69mm ~ but in most serious slide-players opinions that's around 5mm or 6mm too long. General opinion is for 'regular' six-string slidework,anything less than 55mm is too short ~ anything more than 65mm is too long, but as always - whatever feels correct for you is 'the one'! Same with the 'notch' ~ for me personally, I don't like 'em - but hundreds of our other customers can't play anything that hasn't got a 'notch'. The downside to the 'notch-cut' glass slides is you can't use another playing surface other than the section immediately above that notch, so if you accidentally scuff or scratch that part directly above the 'notch' - you can't turn it around and use another surface :/ The cut profile is also one of these 'whatever feels right for you' scenarios ~ the 'rolled' is best for ease of skipping between strings if you're into single-string noodling ~ but if you've used a metal slide with flat ends for years, you may feel happier with a similar finish on your new glass slide. Regarding a slide that's slightly too loose ~ get a piece of stick-backed velcro fastening strip, discard the 'hooks' section and stick the 'loops' piece around the inside the lower rim of the slide ~ very comfortable indeed. Hope this helps  Slide On! Ian. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 10:46:39 GMT
Does the notch affect the length of the slide? That is, the reach of the slide? Obviously, I'll have to try one! I don't know how current Brett's web site is - looks like he has a few pre-made slides up. Seems like a lot of them are 20.5 mm interior -- that might be just the ticket, since it's an extremely minor difference from the Dunlop. Since I've never really noticed much of a difference between my brass and glass slides (other than the weight and sound, which is why I like glass), I'm guessing the profile won't be an issue for me. I have a sort of "hold on for dear life" slide style  |
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Post by Ian McWee on Jun 28, 2015 12:59:15 GMT
Hi Mickeyz, The completed slide length will be taken from the apex of the notch to the tip of the slide ~ so if you go for a 60mm slide length c/w notch, the opposite 'non-playing' side will be around 65mm ~ 66mm, but the 'playing surface' side will be 60mm Slide On! Ian. |
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Post by mikenewport on Jun 28, 2015 14:41:56 GMT
You can never have too many Diamond Bottleneck Slide Threads! I have a Diamond slide with a notch and turning it around, so the notch is at the tip of your finger, I now prefer no notch. I find with the notch the slide settles too close to my hand, whereas without the notch it settles just away from my hand. The rolled edge is great by me, very comfortable. I like a bit of finger movement in the slide so that I can bend my finger slightly (40 odd years on the tools) but not enough for the slide to fall off! Width for me is the same or slightly longer than the fretboard width. Just might have to order another one  Mike |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 15:49:00 GMT
Mike,
You might be able to exchange the notched slide for another one. Check with Ian.
Phil
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 17:23:44 GMT
Or I could take the notched one off you...
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Post by mikenewport on Jun 28, 2015 17:25:51 GMT
...your both wrong, I'm keeping it ha ha. need a new lighter one for electric, I'm hitting too many frets with the heavier one. The great thing about Ian's slides is that their not expensive for what you're getting, which is a great excuse for buying another one Mike |
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Post by Ian McWee on Jun 28, 2015 20:43:45 GMT
Too kind chums!!  I was told many years ago that you really should be able to crook your slide digit in a relaxed shape inside the slide ~ imagine you're holding a large orange (other fruit are available!!) in your hand. Place the slide on your preferred finger without changing the relaxed shape and apply a small amount of pressure with the fingertip on the inside wall of the slide. Without changing your finger shape, turn your hand upside-down (over a soft, carpeted floor) ~ if the slide falls off your finger - it's too large. Slide On, Ian. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 21:05:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 21:51:32 GMT
Okay, thanks for the info. I placed an order with Brett -- or at least I think I did (his web site has a definite '90s vibe to it), I imagine he'll get back to me after the weekend.
For the moment I'm going for a Blue Diamond with no notch, since this doesn't seem to be an issue for me with my current slides. For the length, I just measured how far my pinky reaches inside the Dunlop. Seems like a place to start.
But I'm also ordering a short (45mm) Redhouse -- I've been wanting to try a shorter slide, and I also want to hear the difference between this and the Blue Diamond. And yes, the price is pretty darned reasonable, it seemed a shame not to try.
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Post by oldmanblue on Jun 29, 2015 5:33:11 GMT
mickeyz and the slides a great i dont use anything else they are the best normal priced slides around.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 29, 2015 8:43:46 GMT
There is no doubt about it, Ian's Diamond slides are the best glass slides around, in any price range.
Shine On
Michael.
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Post by Ian McWee on Jun 29, 2015 12:11:49 GMT
Thanks again chaps! mickeyz ~ Brett divides his time between Brux and Oswestry over here - if you see internal photos of the latest monster cruise ships (P & O etc.) - he would've installed the chandeliers in the dining and ballrooms!!! Brett will most certainly be able to make you a 'Redhouse' bottleneck to any size you wish ~ but unless he has a 'Blue Diamond' tube in his own stock you'll need to order direct from me Thanks mickeyz Slide On! Ian, |
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