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Post by gaucho on Nov 20, 2014 19:21:49 GMT
Do you all feel that a 14 fret, chicken foot with a slotted headstock is more or less valuable than a later one with a solid headstock? I know the slot heads in that combination were only made for a year or so. I stumbled upon a nice, all original one today and I'm trying to figure out why it's priced like it is. The solid style ones, like the Brothers in Arms cover, seem to be more in demand (probably in part because of the cover), but I like the looks of a slot head personally.
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Post by Mark Makin on Nov 20, 2014 19:32:58 GMT
I had a 1934 14 fret with chicken feet plate and slot head (S5649) and thought it was generally a much classier instrument than the later flat head, curved logo Dire Straits instruments. The neck is less of a clunky v than the later ones. I think the final "Spade heads" are even worse - really unbalanced.
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Post by gaucho on Nov 20, 2014 19:52:47 GMT
At what point did they start putting the serial number on top of the headstock vs on the body by the strap pin (that's were it is on my 1930 Style 0)?
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Post by Mark Makin on Nov 20, 2014 20:03:37 GMT
Hello again
As near as we can guess at the moment - somewhere around S5100
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Post by zak71 on Nov 20, 2014 21:05:02 GMT
The neck is less of a clunky v than the later ones. That "clunky v" neck shape on the pegheads just happens to be my favorite neck shape, bar none. |
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Post by snakehips on Nov 20, 2014 22:12:26 GMT
Hi there !
I think the slotted headstocks look WAY cooler, especially with an intact National decal, IMHO.
Don't like those later V necks.
My 1934 & 1935 Duolians (both 14 fret necks) are v-shaped, but much less severe than the later ones with solid headstocks, and further up the neck is not massive like the later ones.
Plus the much later ones have poorer quality tuners where the tuner worms and gears get loose as the post uprights work loose from their attachment to the tuner plates (or whatever those parts are called). A cheaper/simpler design (to make) but ultimately don't survive as well long-term.
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Post by Michael Messer on Nov 20, 2014 22:46:08 GMT
Hi Gaucho,
I would say that the older model has slightly more value on its head. Having said that, I should also say that apart from very rare guitars, when it comes to valuing them, condition is everything. The Dire Straits image did and does affect value because it affects demand, but I think that image has promoted all shiny silver single cone Nationals, not just one particular model. Only the people really in the know will see the difference.
I prefer the look of slotted headstocks on Style 0s, but for me looks and tone are very connected; a beautiful looking guitar that doesn't sound good becomes ugly, whereas a piece of old junk that sounds amazing is beautiful to look at.
Neck shapes; to me that is all a part of each guitar, so I don't have a preference, I either like the feel, tone a vibe of a guitar, or I don't. My six favourite guitars of mine all have different neck profiles and setups. Each guitar is its own thing and I would never try to make one feel and sound like the other.
We all have our own opinions on these things and that's very good, otherwise we would all be after the same guitar!
Shine On
Michael
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Post by gaucho on Nov 21, 2014 2:34:38 GMT
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Post by zak71 on Nov 21, 2014 3:24:38 GMT
Your link isn't working. You might need to set the facebook privacy settings for it to "public" in order to make it viewable. |
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Post by Michael Messer on Nov 21, 2014 10:02:59 GMT
Gaucho,
I can only see and hear it from a distance, but it looks and sounds great.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by gaucho on Nov 21, 2014 15:44:28 GMT
It had gritty old strings on it so it was hard to slide on very cleanly. At first I tuned it to regular Open G and wasn't too impressed with the tone. I dropped the tuning a couple steps to key of E and that lit it up! It's all original, action is really good and the neck is straight even to I don't think the neck has been reset. It has very little play wear on it, the patch on the upper right bout seems to be a little pick guard burn (did they do pick guards that early, 34-35?). I'm going to go back and try to get it today….
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Post by zak71 on Nov 21, 2014 16:12:35 GMT
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Post by gaucho on Nov 21, 2014 16:32:36 GMT
Hi Zak, thanks for the info. I did notice a small hole up near where the top attachment point would be. I looked at the setting for the video and I can't change any settings. Maybe because it was the guy who posted the video's privacy settings. I think my FB friends can see it, so send me a friend request if you want.
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Post by zak71 on Nov 21, 2014 16:34:25 GMT
Oh, sorry, I assumed it was in YOUR videos!
I'll send you a request on facebook.
I have my '36 Style O in my lap as I type and I think you really need to try that guitar in standard tuning to appreciate its full potential. It's my favorite National for standard tuning stuff.
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Post by zak71 on Nov 21, 2014 16:42:24 GMT
Ok, I can see it now, it sounds great and that is definitely pickguard burn! Didn't know they had them that early. I hope you can get it, I didn't really appreciate Os until I got a 14 fretter. Love the bass string sound they have.
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