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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 27, 2010 17:10:33 GMT
If we want to talk bad illustrations of National guitars, we could easily make a whole new thread as I have a collection of bad illustrations of them!
Let's try and keep this thread on track....
Shine On Michael
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Post by honeyboy on Feb 27, 2010 17:26:59 GMT
I agree that the title track 'Booker's Guitar' is a 'disappointment' and a missed opportunity. However, the tracks 'A-Z Blues', 'Train From Aberdeen' and 'Nobody's Fault But Mine' are all good on first listen. Does it just go to demonstrate that if you are 'blissed out' on the writings of Deepak Chopra, you have little motivation to 'feel' the blues...?? He has managed it previously (but largely through collaboration with others) Taj Mahal (Goin Down Slow) Charlie Musselwhite (Six O'Clock Blues) and Guy Davies (99 1/2 Won't Do) amongst several.. (see audio link below) Friends by Eric BibbIncreasingly, at the age of 58, he does seem more comfortable in the 'smooth blues', folk/gospel genres...
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Post by Mark Makin on Feb 27, 2010 17:36:19 GMT
Hello Lewis Very definitely plated by the man himself!
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Post by snakehips on Feb 27, 2010 21:42:14 GMT
Hi there ! That is such a shame for that guitar. Someone posted (a few years back, on the IGS forum, I think) some lovely pics of Booker's guitar BEFORE it was plated and the duco finish was in great shape (especially on the back) and the duco finish was the most beautiful I have ever seen on a Duolian. I wonder why he (had it) stripped and plated ? Perhaps he just wanted a shiny one ? Couldn't he just have got a style "O"
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Post by honeyboy on Feb 27, 2010 22:24:20 GMT
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Post by snakehips on Feb 28, 2010 0:12:15 GMT
Hi again !
Yep, those photos !!
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 28, 2010 10:02:55 GMT
I have had a reply from George Gruhn who remembers selling a National guitar for the Bukka White family in the seventies, but he has no photos or documentation.
I will have to visit my attic.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 19:50:08 GMT
What a great thread. Couldn't do this in a hurry in the old days of steam radio, real phones and no computers!
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Post by wolvoboy on Mar 1, 2010 5:30:44 GMT
Hi Just a thought would the sound of Bookers guitar have been affected by having it plated,is it nickel plated or chromium plated. wolvoboy
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Post by wolvoboy on Mar 1, 2010 6:08:20 GMT
Hi just fount two films of bukka playing two different Nationals
just found this last film of Bukka in a room with Howlin wolf and a bunch of other guys in the background
fantastic wolvoboy
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 1, 2010 10:05:43 GMT
Hi Wolvoboy,
I have already mentioned those two Nationals earlier in this thread; the Style O was used in a BBC series about the blues and was probably borrowed for the film. The Duolian is THE Duolian. In the first film, a documentary called 'All Along The Old Man River', Bukka is using the guitar after it has been plated, and in the film with Howlin' Wolf & Pearly Brown, it is the same guitar before it was plated.
So although there is much talk about how many guitars Bukka White must have owned, we have only seen three Nationals in films & photos; THE Duolian (aka Hard Rock), the Style O and the Exploding Palm Tree Tricone (which I am convinced was borrowed for the photo).
Onward & Upward!
Shine On Michael
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Post by wolvoboy on Mar 1, 2010 10:19:37 GMT
Hi Michael heres an interesting clip of bukka playing a wood bodied gibson,as the guy who put the clip on youtube says he was known to crush wooden bodied guitars due to him being heavy handed,cant see that myself unless he used to throw them around.
wolvoboy
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 1, 2010 10:50:17 GMT
Hi Wolvoboy,
I mentioned that one too! (check my earlier post on this thread). If my memory is correct, that clip of film is from a documentary about country bluesmen and that guitar was used by more than one musician in the film. I guess it was part of the film crew's kit.
The comment on YouTube about him crushing wooden guitars with his hard playing style is just total b*ll*x
Shine On Michael
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Post by wolvoboy on Mar 1, 2010 12:17:51 GMT
Hi michael i guessed as much its amazing where they get some of these stupid ideas from,sorry for stating what you have already said,i think my wife is right in saying i am getting old,ill just keep taking my medicine!! I think you are right in saying bukka had a few guitars,look at us guys on the forum ,i have five guitars you have probably got two for every day of the week god know s how many other forum members have,so it makes sense he would have more than one. wolvoboy
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Post by lewiscohen on Mar 1, 2010 13:44:43 GMT
In a great article/blog that Zak (and His Unhappy Guitar) wrote on BW, Maynard Silva is quoted as refering to the Style O as being in Bukka's posession, as opposed to being borrowed just for that film, by virtue of the fact that it acquired a name ("Lovene").
Interesting subject.
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