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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2009 17:39:25 GMT
I use a Barcus Berry Dobro pickup. I actually own 2 of them but they don't make them anymore. It's mounted exactly like the picture in the second post of this thread by "andys."
NOTE: Amplifier... I use a Peavey ED-100. These were sold as an Electronic Drum amplifier! I call it my electronic Dobro amplifier. It sounds wonderful and responds like a Dobro should. Go with what works!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2009 21:22:02 GMT
Hi
The Headway p/u's on the Fyldes are very loud and pure and work well through a valve amp, an acoustic amp or a PA.
I do not agree at all the an acoustic guitar plugged in with a pick-up fitted changes to an electric guitar. I do this often and the guitar is the same to play, has the same feel, weight etc. The amp might change the sound, but so does the PA amp which takes and amplifies the signal from the SM 57.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2009 19:37:13 GMT
This particular topic has mentioned (other then the SM57) he Rode M3, the Rode NT1A and the AKG C1000, can anybody enlighten me as to the difference other than price between these 3 mics for digital home recording on acoustics or is it just a preference thing?
Thanks
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Post by lewiscohen on Jun 13, 2009 23:20:50 GMT
This particular topic has mentioned (other then the SM57) he Rode M3, the Rode NT1A and the AKG C1000, can anybody enlighten me as to the difference other than price between these 3 mics for digital home recording on acoustics or is it just a preference thing? Thanks Tommo, I own an NT1-a and an M3, but not a C1000. Specifically for home recording they'll all do the job but the main difference is that the M3 and C1000 are both small diaphragm condenser mics (the M3 is pretty clearly designed to compete directly with the C1000) and the NT1-a is a large diaphragm condenser. I highly recommend you go to www.soundonsound.com and read the reviews there to get an idea of the pros and cons of each model.
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Post by bod on Jun 14, 2009 5:00:01 GMT
Any chance of a quick explanation in layperson's terms of 'headspace' / 'headroom' and 'foldback'?
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 14, 2009 8:12:02 GMT
In relation to the subject we are discussing:
Headspace - is my way of describing the 'mindset and attitude towards playing' created by plugging in an acoustic instrument. In other words, when I plug in an acoustic guitar I play it differently to when it is not plugged in. It is a totally different experience to playing an acoustic guitar through a microphone.
Foldback - is the name of the section of the PA system that is for the on-stage sound. It is heard by the musicians through monitor wedges. Lots of modern bands do not use monitor wedges (speakers) for foldback. They use in-ear monitoring which is more accurate and controllable than speakers. An in-ear foldback system is a very expensive way of doing it.
Headroom - That is a way of describing having spare volume. So an amp set with the volume at number 4 that everybody can hear clearly, has lots of headroom.....meaning there is lots of room to turn up the volume. Setting my SM57 mic with lots of headroom means that I have much more volume there than I actually need. So I can back off the mic unless I really need power....then I go in closer.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by bod on Jun 14, 2009 13:11:21 GMT
Thanks Michael.
(Beautifully explained, by the way - clear and succinct, yet chock-full of riches!)
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 14, 2009 14:28:14 GMT
...my pleasure Shine On Michael
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Post by honeyboy on Jul 10, 2009 10:25:15 GMT
So is there room to fit the ultra slim lace sensor to the 14 fret MM blues by 'just sticking it on'? Is it likely to be an option in the future? How 'microphonic' is the pickup?
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 10, 2009 10:31:47 GMT
Hi Honeyboy,
I have only done a very quick test with this pickup, so I cannot give a detailed opinion.
It fits on an MM guitar easily - no drilling or anything. Just stick it on. The sound is powerful and from the quick test I did, I did not have a problem with it being microphonic. I think it is probably a good choice of pickup.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 7:53:07 GMT
HI
I have an ultra slim lace sensor fitted by Robin to my Deco.
It fits, as long as I play slide; it would touch the 1st string on the 14th fret if I fretted up there, but why would I do that?
A quick test through the Bose shows that it works very well indeed with pb strings. There is plenty of output from the p/up and the tricone still sounds very much a tricone. The tonal range is coped with very well and it certainly does the business. When I get time I'll video the setup, but You Tube is not kind to tonal subtleties!
Barry
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 11, 2009 10:54:11 GMT
I tested the Lace pickup on a single cone MM guitar and (I think) I was able to fret the guitar on the high frets with no problem. As I said in my previous post, it was just a quick test and to say any more than I already have, I would need to do a proper test.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by robn on Jul 11, 2009 11:27:37 GMT
Having had an opportunity to test the USA Sensor longer term on the MM guitars and others it is just a little too tall at 7mm to fit up against the fretboard end on many reso guitars as you will "fret out" onto the pick-up above the 15th (higher on a 14 fret). Your can back it off from the fretboard end to give full clearance but then the pick-up ends up under the "picking" area and for some players this can be a distraction. The sound from this p/u is very good - well balanced for phosphor brinze strings. So it is a little frustrating that it is just a shade too high It would work fine on a spiderbridge set-up or perhaps some biscuit makes that pack between the fretboard and body (quite a few wood bodied guitars do this). You need the top of the fretboard end at least 7mm off the body for this pick-up. The Flatbucker (nickel string balanced) is only 4mm so it is quite possible to make an effective slimmer p/u. As I said - the tone is nice and lush from this p/u, so for players who don't have an issue with the p/u under the picking area or those who have guitars with 7mm fretboard end clearance (or those who don't fret above the 15th) then this is a good option for PB strings. Robin
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Post by honeyboy on Jul 11, 2009 20:52:57 GMT
Thanks for all the info - As far as I can see the flat bucker is 0.24" thick, which works out at 6mm with my maths. I was thinking of mounting the pickup and jack as an integral part of the coverplate, similar to the idea used originally by Mike Dowling for his 'hotplate' Do you see any snags with this approach? I particularly wanted an acoustic magnetic pickup rather than an 'electric' pickup. Ideally I'd have used an active L.R Baggs Mr1a like I've got on my Weissenborn. but because the second 'humbucker' coil is below the top coil, and is articulated to wobble to sense body movement (which is why it sounds so good) I think it would be impractical for such a 'space critical' installation on a MM Blues. Something slim and compact (like the ultra slim Lace sensor) with a good sound might be a goer for such an experiment. How easy is it to get replacement cone covers?!!
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Post by robn on Jul 25, 2009 21:51:16 GMT
Here is another approach to resonator amplification - don't We were supposed to be playing a couple of bluegrass sets at a local festival today but at the last minute our bands two lead players were unavailable. So with three of us left (dobro, mandolin and bass) two of us switched instruments to a MM Blues and MM lightning (the bass guy stayed on bass) and co-opted in another friend and quickly put together a blues set. The festival was to raise cash for the music department at the local school - so we hit the streets for a couple of hours of busking (and rehersal ) before we played at the festival. To get the balance right we used a simple HiWatt Busker 15 watt battery amp for a vocal mic' to lift the lead voice a little and also plugged in a Takamine flat top as it was getting lost. The MM Lightning and MM Blues and acoustic bass just ran purely acoustically. I must say that the balance for street busking was just GREAT !!!!!!! At the festival we simply mic'd the bass, guitars and voices (we were on the outside stage) and reports from the floor were that the sound was excellent. We made a few quid for the school and had a great day out - even if it was a thrown together band with only a couple of hours rehersal Everytime I play a reso I just get more and more inspired ;D I realised afterward that this was the first time I'd actually played my reso standing up on stage as I've always sat down before - I drilled and mounted the strap button about 10 mins before leaving the house. To be honest, it was absolutely no hassel to work a mic' standing during our festival set. And I loved the freedom of not being plugged in but just moving in and out on the mic' between rhythm and lead. I know that there is a time and a place for using a pick-up - I've just still not come across the limits of a mic' within my own playing experience Robin
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