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Post by blueshome1 on Sept 23, 2022 12:13:27 GMT
I'm sorry you find a problem with my statement Michael, but many of the proponents of 4 32kHz claim it as a "natural" tuning because the notes appear as whole numbers as I previously stated and Pete understands. It requires a leap of faith to believe that there is something special here.
Use whatever tuning you think suits your ear, listen to the different tunings Lightnin Hopkins used in his early recordings.
From Wikipedia: No mention of 232kHz historically btw.
"Before standardization on 440kHz, many countries and organizations followed the French standard since the 1860s of 435 Hz, which had also been the Austrian government's 1885 recommendation.[2] Johann Heinrich Scheibler recommended A440 as a standard in 1834 after inventing the "tonometer" to measure pitch,[3] and it was approved by the Society of German Natural Scientists and Physicians at a meeting in Stuttgart the same year.[4]
The American music industry reached an informal standard of 440 Hz in 1926, and some began using it in instrument manufacturing.
In 1936, the American Standards Association recommended that the A above middle C be tuned to 440 Hz.[5] This standard was taken up by the International Organization for Standardization in 1955 as Recommandation R 16,[6] before being formalised in 1975 as ISO 16.[7]
It is designated A4 in scientific pitch notation because it occurs in the octave that starts with the fourth C key on a standard 88-key piano keyboard. On MIDI, A440 is note 69 (0x45 hexadecimal)."
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Post by slide496 on Sept 23, 2022 15:23:14 GMT
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Post by blueshome1 on Sept 24, 2022 13:32:37 GMT
Thanks Harriet. Puts it into perspective. I think you hear what you want to hear in terms of differences, I wonder if any scientific work has been done as to whether most people can actually discern the difference between 432 and 440 in blind tests.Maybe a musician with a trained ear. Just what range of frequencies do those with "perfect pitch" hear? I also wonder if a blind test with a guitar at the different tunings would be identied in a blind test. If you want to tune to whatever frequency you choose, why not if you are solo.
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Post by snakehips on Sept 26, 2022 12:45:37 GMT
Hi there !
I'm no expert on this BUT I do wonder how much difference in pitch is 432 to 440 Hz ? Is it a semi-tone lower ? Less than that ? (More ??)
And if you are playing with a harmonica player you might as well forget it ! (for now I'll assume they are tuned to 440Hz - but happy to find out if that's not the case)
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 26, 2022 13:16:10 GMT
Hi there ! I'm no expert on this BUT I do wonder how much difference in pitch is 432 to 440 Hz ? Is it a semi-tone lower ? Less than that ? (More ??) And if you are playing with a harmonica player you might as well forget it ! (for now I'll assume they are tuned to 440Hz - but happy to find out if that's not the case) Richard, harmonicas can be tuned by someone that knows how to. It is not something you would do at a gig, but they can be tuned. 432 is less than a semitone down from 440. It is just past halfway lower, so a quarter-tone and a fraction. If you have a Cleartune tuner app on your phone you can adjust the calibration to whatever you want. Lots of people do this without even realising it. They just like their guitar tuned a little slack to its sweet spot. It is sweeter than 440, but as you say it can be a problem when playing with fixed tuning instruments. It is not a subject that can be argued about because it is just a personal preference thing, but it cannot be denied that slackening the pitch a fraction on any stringed instrument (piano, guitar, violin, harp, etc) does sweeten and relax the tone. Shine On Michael
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Post by mitchfit on Sept 26, 2022 21:06:26 GMT
not convinced this means anything at all, just following the trail created and scouting around it: www.powerswithin.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/432.jpgsomewhat similar to the sand geometry created by different Hz on paper from a long past posting, just interesting: www.newlifefrequencies.com/what-are-cymatics/those who study these sort of things say: "Alpha waves, which measure between 7.5 and 14 Hz, occur when people feel relaxed and when the brain is in an idle state without concentrating on anything." is it coincidence that the Schumann resonance is 7.83 Hz at an idle? that was considered true before, but now many believe that is changing to higher frequencies. not sure on that'n either. have read : Professor R. Wever from the Max Planck Institute for Behavioral Physiology in Erling-Andechs, constructed an underground bunker to completely screen out all magnetic fields. Student volunteers lived there for four weeks in this hermetically sealed environment. Professor Wever observed that the student’s circadian rhythms diverged and that they suffered emotional distress and migraine headaches. These symptoms went away as soon as he generated the Schumann frequency artificially with a pulse generator. again not really sure, just what is being said. as blueshome1 rightfully pointed out, all of this info is a leap of faith for joe average as we don't have machines to test for validity on our own. it is said that human embryonic fluid is very near ocean salinity. temperature can control the sex of new born reptiles. different colored lights can change the birth rate for fish. about all i would venture to theorize is that we are all somehow inextricably tied to almost everything we are exposed to on the third stone from the sun. also, that the medical science community/big pharma seems absolutely uninterested unle$$... mitchfit PS UFOlogists and flat earthers are all just wannabees. us full time tinfoil hatters ask about med-beds and SAD Light Therapy.
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Post by stevie2sticks on Dec 1, 2022 19:57:27 GMT
well listening to Harriet’s A432 Guitar Rag posting, I’ve retuned an acoustic in Spanish A432 and a reso in Vestapol A432 and Gonna give them a go. Interesting stuff.
Steve Isle of Man
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