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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 28, 2019 15:24:05 GMT
I haven't listened to or played that song for many years, but I grew up playing it. I am fairly sure Brian played the slide part in open E tuning. That's where the high E in the slide part comes from.
Shine On Michael
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Post by joephoto on Jul 1, 2019 16:42:53 GMT
I'm far from an expert but I can read (words not notes). That Stones video starts off saying it was 1972. I have a copy of a Dunlop book on slide guitar and they transcribed a version of the song from the Stones 1970 live performance album Get Yer Ya-Yas Out. They have it in open G - lowD-G-D-G-B-D. Am I correct when I assume that it could have been in standard tuning and the transcriber just wrote in in G? The book shows Muddy Waters' Honey Bee and George Harrison's My Sweet Lord as in standard tuning.
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Post by jono1uk on Jul 1, 2019 16:55:31 GMT
that stones performance from that album is in the video i posted on page one of this thread ..and is in standard tuning ..
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Post by joephoto on Jul 1, 2019 18:43:05 GMT
OK. Maybe the book got the date wrong and the transcriber just wrote it for G but it does say Mick tuned to open G. I'm not trying to be know it all. Just passing on what I read and trying to be helpful but that doesn't always come through by typing.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 1, 2019 18:46:32 GMT
This is not in standard tuning, it is in open E.
The tuning doesn't really matter, you play this song in Spanish Vestapol or standard, but on the track it is in open E.
Phew....I bought this record, Beggars Banquet, 50 years ago in Harlequin Records in Harrow. Long time!
Shine On Michael
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Post by jono1uk on Jul 1, 2019 19:34:11 GMT
OK. Maybe the book got the date wrong and the transcriber just wrote it for G but it does say Mick tuned to open G. I'm not trying to be know it all. Just passing on what I read and trying to be helpful but that doesn't always come through by typing. I get ya ..the transcriber is sometimes notating his "interpretation" ... although not as dramatic as a complete key change - i have seen tab books showing certain strings / frets on a live performance and the video of that exact same performance clearly shows it being played differently ..
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Post by davetracey on Jul 1, 2019 21:47:37 GMT
Several guitarists play slide in standard tuning, without necessarily playing blues. Jeff Beck uses a slide to great effect on a wide range of material. Syd Barrett created a glissando effect by apparently sliding a lighter up the strings of his guitar- Daevid Allen of Gong become something of a master at this, although he reportedly used some sort of gynaecological device as slide.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 1, 2019 22:15:32 GMT
..the transcriber is sometimes notating his "interpretation" ....More often than not, the transcriber is not notating his or her "interpretation", they are just getting it wrong. This morning I received a book from a student of mine that is interested in studying Muddy Waters' guitar playing. He sent it to me to save me from writing out the TAB, which I can do, but I don't like doing it because I don't like TAB. So this afternoon I browsed through the book and grabbed one or two tunes to play the writer's TAB, but the book is full of mistakes on all levels and I cannot use it as a teaching aid. The mistakes in this highly respected and widely available book are not an "interpretation", they are quite simply mistakes. I am not going to name the book or the writer because then this will become a review, which I don't want to do. I have experienced this too many times to list. Shine On Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Jul 6, 2019 14:22:17 GMT
Here’s what I would do if I ever tuned to standard, I think I play a very slightly different progression to the Altman’s but it’s roughly the same. Pete
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Post by joephoto on Jul 7, 2019 4:25:20 GMT
The book I have on slide that I just started re-reading today has the first half in regular tuning and uses a D box system. The second half, what they call traditional slide guitar is where they start dealing with open tunings. Misplaced the record that goes with it but I get the idea. Attachments:
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