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Post by creolian on Mar 27, 2018 18:37:05 GMT
Hi Jeff, sounds like your route might have more chance of finding a National than driving around south east England! Good luck with the search! Part of the fun is in the looking! Best wishes to you all, John I'm not sure I'd make it round the block driving in England. My only attempt at driving on the "correct" side of the road was in St Thomas... Lucky no one else was on the road. It was like playing guitar left handed Ive always spent leisure time traveling for work going to the pawn shops, flea markets, jukes and roadside barbecue joints. always somewhat surreal, patience in the hunt has resulted in a few nice guitars, some rare books and many cases of comfortable indigestion. I put in an inquiry... And hopefully this side road on the long strange trip continues to a happy destination for an old guitar... Thanks for the info and yalls encouragement. All best, Jeff
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Post by bonzo on Mar 27, 2018 18:43:02 GMT
Sounds like we're living a similar lifestyle on different sides of the Atlantic! Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Mar 27, 2018 20:00:25 GMT
Hi Jeff, sounds like your route might have more chance of finding a National than driving around south east England! Good luck with the search! Part of the fun is in the looking! Best wishes to you all, John I'm not sure I'd make it round the block driving in England. My only attempt at driving on the "correct" side of the road was in St Thomas... Lucky no one else was on the road. It was like playing guitar left handed Ive always spent leisure time traveling for work going to the pawn shops, flea markets, jukes and roadside barbecue joints. always somewhat surreal, patience in the hunt has resulted in a few nice guitars, some rare books and many cases of comfortable indigestion. I put in an inquiry... And hopefully this side road on the long strange trip continues to a happy destination for an old guitar... Thanks for the info and yalls encouragement. All best, Jeff Found my $25.50 1962 Gibson Melody Maker with original case doing just that in Charlotte NC. The guy in the pawn shop couldn't understand that this crazy white boy wanted that old guitar instead of the shiny Squier Telecaster he had on the wall for $75.00. Best of luck Jeff - and keep us all informed, please.
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Post by creolian on Apr 4, 2018 23:47:51 GMT
Hello All, Another "oh dear"... This one is "galvanized" nashville.craigslist.org/msg/d/1934-national-galvanized/6552026336.htmlI don't recall ever hearing of National using a galvanic zinc coating... I wonder if he'd consider a discount for that. Maybe Rik B will chime in. All best, Jeff Ps still negotiating and working logistics on the rEd duo... & if you read this Michael: would it be better to start a new thread for these oh dear offerings. I feel bad about jacking it alraedy... *Blames it on the buffalo trace.
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Post by 1928triolian on Apr 5, 2018 0:02:17 GMT
Hello All, Another "oh dear"... This one is "galvanized" nashville.craigslist.org/msg/d/1934-national-galvanized/6552026336.htmlI don't recall ever hearing of National using a galvanic zinc coating... I wonder if he'd consider a discount for that. Maybe Rik B will chime in. All best, Jeff Ps still negotiating and working logistics on the rEd duo... & if you read this Michael: would it be better to start a new thread for these oh dear offerings. I feel bad about jacking it alraedy... *Blames it on the buffalo trace. Don't know about galvanic stuff , but it looks like a totally original and unmolested 14 frets Duo!
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Post by Stevie on Apr 5, 2018 7:42:06 GMT
Galvanised steel sheet often (but not always) looks very similar to Duco / Rick's work. Well, "silver" toned finishes anyway!
e&oe...
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 5, 2018 8:06:28 GMT
It looks very good. As 1928Triolian has already said, it looks like an all original un-tampered with, Duolian with its original case.
The person selling it knows nothing about National guitars, or guitars in general. As well as stating that it is galvanised steel, which it obviously isn't, they have also said that the lovely 1930s capo is a "slide mute".
It is priced at the very top end, but the seller's naivity shows that it is an honest sale.
Very nice.
Shine On Michael
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Post by 1928triolian on Apr 5, 2018 9:21:53 GMT
As Michael said. More, this guitar will not need a neck reset: the strings are still high on the coverplate, and the nut grooves look unmolested. I bet the saddle is pristine, too.
Great guitar! nowadays, it's quite rare to find one in original condition and probably NOT needing work.
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Post by rbe on Apr 6, 2018 22:24:24 GMT
Galvanized and $5000!!! Okay, galvanized I get. Honest mistake. It looks sort of galvanized. But $5000 on Craigslist! Where did that come from?
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Post by Stevie on Apr 7, 2018 23:03:59 GMT
It's a gross insult for me to compare Rik's artistry with mild steel sheet galvanising but that's not what I intended. When I still worked in that trade, I figured it would be possible to make a guitar body in the way that an enquiring mind looks at everything and thinks "what can I do with that? it looks useful...* but I had no knowledge of resonators in the 1970s and the thought vapourised. Making the body itself would have been a struggle (due to the mechanical corner seaming process we used) but not insurmountable. Fast forward to 2008 and I joined up the dots as the proverbial penny dropped...
It's a coincidence that galvanising (not the hot dipped process) looks (or can look) superficially similar from a distance! No insult intended. Also, any perceived passable similarity fades a little with time to be less pronounced as the shine etches in the atmosphere, but Rik's work will likely just improve with age.
* And so begins a lifetime's hoarding!
e&oe...
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Post by creolian on Apr 8, 2018 3:43:04 GMT
It's a gross insult for me to compare Rik's artistry with mild steel sheet galvanising but that's not what I intended. When I still worked in that trade, I figured it would be possible to make a guitar body in the way that an enquiring mind looks at everything and thinks "what can I do with that? it looks useful...* but I had no knowledge of resonators in the 1970s and the thought vapourised. Making the body itself would have been a struggle (due to the mechanical corner seaming process we used) but not insurmountable. Fast forward to 2008 and I joined up the dots as the proverbial penny dropped... It's a coincidence that galvanising (not the hot dipped process) looks (or can look) superficially similar from a distance! No insult intended. Also, any perceived passable similarity fades a little with time to be less pronounced as the shine etches in the atmosphere, but Rik's work will likely just improve with age. * And so begins a lifetime's hoarding! e&oe... Hi Steve, all That galvanized metal used to be common here. sometimes called corrugated tin, usally roofing metal and garbage bins. Many "tin roof shed" neighborhoods... Very much a "blues" appropriate material. I have a vague memory of being told it will off gas something nasty if heated too much. I have no idea... That might just an ancient memory of my fathers voice trying to keep from putting firecrackers in the trash cans or making bike fenders out of the shed roof... It does appear similar in a photo but I'd never mistake the two. That add is in the Nashville craigslist but the ad has the guitar located in Wisconsin. (about the north south length of england apart ?) It's a strange mix of a savvy price on an item that would find interest in Nashville but yet has A weird error in the description. I didn't realize it had a phone number in the advert. I might try and give them a call when it's not 11pm on a Saturday. All best ) Jeff
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Post by Stevie on Apr 8, 2018 7:10:21 GMT
Hey Jeff, not wishing to go off topic again but... we used galvanised sheet to make ventilation ducting. When welded- especially gas welded, it gave off silken white streamers that floated in the air. I was told that they were arsenic based and you know how with the passing decades you begin to believe it. No reason not to really given the violent flu-like symptons experienced the next day together with the strange sort of sore throat. It always passed but...
I have discussed the seaming on here before years ago, mistaking it for the way fiddle edge Dobros are constructed. My bad as they say. I think it was Mr. Makin that once offered an opinion that newcomers arrive and within weeks begin to hold forth on all matters related. Maybe it wasn't Mark but memory fails.
I'd love to have my MM Blues finished by Rik but the logistics prevent that. It's a reasonable aspiration though- it's not as though I'm dreaming of an RBE'd Volvo!
e&oe...
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