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Post by rosantu on Mar 16, 2018 20:35:16 GMT
Hi all! I'm Robert and I live in Spain, where unfortunately it is difficult to find a luthier for our resonators... the heel is separated from the neck, more or less 2 mm. Does anyone knows if it can be fixed or is it better to buy another Republic tricone?
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Post by gaucho on Mar 16, 2018 21:09:59 GMT
Should her an easy fix. Those have a 3 piece neck and the heel is a separate piece. Any reputable luthier should be able to handle that...
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Post by rosantu on Mar 16, 2018 21:13:43 GMT
Should her an easy fix. Those have a 3 piece neck and the heel is a separate piece. Any reputable luthier should be able to handle that... Thanks Gaucho, seems we don't have any reputable luthier in the area I live. Or they don't want to take the risk... |
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 17, 2018 8:54:37 GMT
Hi Robert,
Welcome to our forum.
Gaucho is correct that it should be a fairly simple repair for a luthier, but if you can't find a luthier to do the work, that is a different problem.
Can we see a photo of the broken heel please?
Shine On
Michael.
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 18, 2018 11:49:30 GMT
 I would think your guitar neck is possible put on in the same way as most far Eastern resos. You could show this picture to a repairer and the way forward can be seen. PT Having said that, it is still not very good to use someone with no knowledge of reso guitars. |
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Post by linkous on Mar 19, 2018 7:48:46 GMT
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 19, 2018 13:55:08 GMT
To be honest, the construction of the neck on a National guitar is not much better than the sketch above. Linkous, you did a lovely job making your own National-style guitar. However, considering that almost every original 1920s and 30s National guitar is still in one piece, I totally disagree with your comment. I am sure that John Dopyera, if he was alive, would not take that one lying down either! Shine On Michael. |
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Post by linkous on Mar 19, 2018 21:02:09 GMT
Michael, do you mean a neck reset to an old National guitar is an exception?!
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Post by linkous on Mar 21, 2018 7:51:13 GMT
michaelmesser.proboards.com/thread/9983/duolians : '... The green one on the left got a new neck made from honduran mahogany with "National Duolian" stamped in the headstock. Serial numbers, too. The rolled "f" hole model on the right got a new neck ...'
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 21, 2018 8:47:01 GMT
To be honest, the construction of the neck on a National guitar is not much better than the sketch above. Hi Linkous, No, my comment was a response to your statement about the construction of the neck on a National guitar being not much better than Pete's quick sketch (which incidentally is a perfect sketch!). They seem to have worked pretty well for the past 90 years. Shine On Michael. |
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Post by bonzo on Mar 21, 2018 9:39:33 GMT
The necks on the 2 Duolians I am lucky enough to have seem fine after 80 years!
They were pretty well made,I don't imagine the guys making them were thinking about posterity, they just did the best they could within a budget.
As can be seen by the many 'tweaks' over the relatively short time these guitars were made, someone was keeping an eye on QC!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by bluesdude on Mar 21, 2018 9:55:39 GMT
Change the neck on a vintage National and the sound is gone!!! almost as much as swapping out the cone! the old necks are what gave these guitars the sound they have,
We are getting off topic here but good luck with your neck repair I hope it turns out for you,,
Kenny,,,,
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Post by linkous on Mar 22, 2018 11:46:07 GMT
I can imagine that a bad neck joint has its own sound, Kenny.
www.nationalguitars.com/faq-1 : 'Do you repair vintage Nationals?
25 years of building resonator guitars has made National Reso-Phonic the repair headquarters for all vintage Nationals. The same fine luthiers who make our guitars can also repair and refurbish your vintage instruments. We have all the equipment, parts, and expertise to make your vintage National as great as it can be!
We will also consider work on other brands of American-made resonator instruments (no imports please), and will install pickups in both new and vintage Nationals, as well as spider-cone guitars.
It can be difficult to give a repair estimate over the phone. You may email pictures of your instrument to repairs@nationalguitars.com for an estimate, but it is best to have the instrument in our hands for evaluation. Typically, vintage Nationals may need neck resets, or neck and fretwork ranging between $300-600. A full neck replacement with installation usually costs $800. These are just a few of the standard repairs performed here at the National factory. Our shop repair rate is 85.00 per hour..'
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Post by bod on Mar 22, 2018 12:26:02 GMT
Surely, a great many guitars of many kinds need resets or more by 80 years of age. That doesn’t mean they were badly-built in the first place.
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 22, 2018 13:26:10 GMT
25 years of building resonator guitars has made National Reso-Phonic the repair headquarters for all vintage Nationals. The same fine luthiers who make our guitars can also repair and refurbish your vintage instruments. We have all the equipment, parts, and expertise to make your vintage National as great as it can be!
We will also consider work on other brands of American-made resonator instruments (no imports please), and will install pickups in both new and vintage Nationals, as well as spider-cone guitars.
It can be difficult to give a repair estimate over the phone. You may email pictures of your instrument to repairs@nationalguitars.com for an estimate, but it is best to have the instrument in our hands for evaluation. Typically, vintage Nationals may need neck resets, or neck and fretwork ranging between $300-600. A full neck replacement with installation usually costs $800. These are just a few of the standard repairs performed here at the National factory. Our shop repair rate is 85.00 per hour..'
Don Young was a great luthier and wonderful man. He is missed by the whole resonator guitar community because he was a friend to us all, so I would never say anything negative about him. What I do say is that the cleverest thing he did was not to build high quality resonator guitars or start a guitar company, it was to name his brand new company 'National Reso-Phonic Guitars' and to put the word "National" on the headstocks of his products.
Shine On
Michael
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