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Post by 1928triolian on Mar 15, 2018 17:45:29 GMT
3 pc: top, back and sides are 3 different pieces to be soldered together.
2 pc: top/sides is one piece, or back/sides is one piece: you can find both of these variants depending if we're talking 12 or 14 fretters National guitars.
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Post by alexandre on Mar 16, 2018 16:52:42 GMT
1928triolian, despite the quality of the video, we can feel a great tone for sure ! That said, it seems to apply to some 2pc Triolians too One that point Hugues, I can only talk about the exemplar that I play... I only had in hand one 3 pieces body exemplar !! I guess the tone is not only a matter of pieces to realize the body, resonators instruments needs an adaptated set up to offer their best. I know a member of a french forum playing #12w since a few years now, but never had the opportunity to meet him & play them consecutively... The fact that I've found a 3 pieces body exemplar was completely hazardous, but I'm thankfull to play an instrument with such a tone ! ... and it's finally all about that, for sure !
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Mar 16, 2018 18:31:06 GMT
How can you spot the difference between a two piece and a three piece body without dismantling the guitar?
Looking at mine, I guess it's a two piece with the top and the sides being one piece due to the gentle radius of top to side transition whereas the back to side joint is much sharper.
.....or have I got it wrong again, Dad?
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Post by alexandre on Mar 16, 2018 18:56:01 GMT
How can you spot the difference between a two piece and a three piece body without dismantling the guitar? 1/ your empiric method concerning the side transition is the most evident... 2/ a little (dentist) mirror trough one f-hole can make you see the soldering between top & side... 3/ the serial number can also gives you an good idea: all triolians (P & w series) under #500 seems to be concerned (thanks Mark MAKIN's job !) as all the triolians with bakelite neck. Duolians seems not to be concerned as they appeared after 1930 & this specific process. Please guys, correct me if I'm wrong in any way...
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Post by 1928triolian on Mar 16, 2018 19:16:39 GMT
1928triolian, despite the quality of the video, we can feel a great tone for sure ! That said, it seems to apply to some 2pc Triolians too One that point Hugues, I can only talk about the exemplar that I play... I only had in hand one 3 pieces body exemplar !! I guess the tone is not only a matter of pieces to realize the body, resonators instruments needs an adaptated set up to offer their best. I know a member of a french forum playing #12w since a few years now, but never had the opportunity to meet him & play them consecutively... The fact that I've found a 3 pieces body exemplar was completely hazardous, but I'm thankfull to play an instrument with such a tone ! ... and it's finally all about that, for sure ! Thank you, Alexandre! And for the tone, yes, I totally agree. The guitar (assuming it is all original if it's an old guitar) is a factor, but the search of the right set-up is even more important (strings material and gauge, strings height, break angle). Yet another factor is... the player's touch, with and without the slide.
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Post by hh1978 on Mar 16, 2018 22:02:51 GMT
They can be identified without opening the guitar. 3pc have a more sharp top/side edge than 2pc which is more radiused. Also, every 3pc Triolians I've seen in pictures, except Alexandres's 184w, lack the dot at the end of the body, so they have two screws instead of three I guess.
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Post by alexandre on Mar 17, 2018 7:53:12 GMT
Also, every 3pc Triolians I've seen in pictures, except Alexandres's 184w, lack the dot at the end of the body, so they have two screws instead of three I guess. 184w is maybe not (completely) an exception: yes, there is a centered dot at the end of the fretboard, BUT it seems there's no screw underneath... After the work done by Mike, it appears that this last dot wasn't removed... ... I cannot be 100% sure of that, but it's my own deduction, and understand gentlemen that I won't unscrew this neck right now for the science. Sorry.
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