Sorry it has taken me so long to upload a photo of the Triolian. Apart from being a complete idiot when it comes to computers, it wasn't clear from this forum format whether a pic could be uploaded from a PC. The image icon produces tags asking for a URL.
Anyway, I will upload that pic separately in a moment. I took some photos of the guitar this past spring before I sold it. The W suffix in the serial number confirms that it originally had the walnut sunburst finish. Unless WJ had more than one Triolian this would be the guitar in the picture identified by Ella. On the other hand, I can't personally confirm that Triolian Man is my Uncle Willard. The picture doesn't show his face so clearly and I didn't know him until the 1950s, a long time after this photo was taken.
Yes Michael, it feels a bit odd to see all this stuff about my family on the Internet, but its a historical subject after all, and if its going to go online I can't think of a better place for it than here .
I have been talking to my Dad about the Royal Hawaiians, so more on that soon I hope. For researchers who are interested, there ought to be stories about them in the Pennsylvania newspapers, especially the Pittsburgh Press for 1936, the year they did well in formal competition.
The colour photograph is of one of Larry Conrad's Nationals that at some time in its life has been chrome plated. Larry believes it to have been owned by his 'great uncle' Willard Johns, but cannot be sure. Larry, I hope you don't mind me adding to your message, Michael.
Hello all, I sent that photo to Colin a couple of years ago. I also have a couple others of him with a woman playing the Triolian lap style, another woman with a mandolin (I think) and Willard playing a wooden guitar. The pictures I have are the original small sized photographs. I will try to find them tomorrow and send you some copies.
Hello Michael, I did not know who was in the pictures. I got them at a garage sale. There were about 6 poictures that had National guitars in them. I found the other pics but still have to scan them. Wheldon
I scanned the pics and registered on this site. If you send me your email address I will send the pics. There are 4 pics, 2 with Willard, and 2 more of another band, 1 woman is in the 2 other Willard pictures also. wheldon
Hi Michael, I am not quite sure about the headstock either, not the colour, but the one in the old picture looks more angular than the other, as you know more than me about National guitars did they do slightly different heads?
One correction: I don't think I said that this is the same guitar. That's what I would GUESS, assuming that Triolian Man is my Uncle Willard, and assuming that he only ever had one Triolian. That seems reasonable, but on the other hand he did accumulate quite a few guitars (at least three Gibson acoustics, for example). There is also the problem that the photo, which is obviously posed, may have him holding a guitar that was not his.
The Triolian I sold this past spring was made in 1931, based on the serial number. Does that add anything? It had been unplayed for years and was packed in the case in old newspapers, and of course it had been plated. That's about all I can say. I have other photos, by the way, if they would be useful. What exactly are we looking for?
Post by Michael Messer on Oct 9, 2004 20:24:50 GMT
I think I have to agree with Kevin about the dot markers. As you say Larry, the Triolian in the picture may not be Willard's. While we are on the subject of your chrome-plated National, what is the serial number?
Post by Michael Messer on Oct 9, 2004 20:29:58 GMT
I have just received four more photographs of Larry Conrad's 'great uncle' Willard Johns. Thanks very much to Wheldon for sending them. It appears that Wheldon got them at a garage sale a few years ago.
On the back of this one is written -"2 Rocky Mtn Trio That's going wind up sweeping N.C. and Ga.!"
The woman with the ukulele is in the pics of Willard. The were several other pictures of the other woman in the Rocky mtn Trio pictures playing a Kay Kraft Venetian guitar with the uke woman. I did not get those. Wheldon.
On the back of this one is written - "were you afraid to sit with us?"