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Post by 5slide on Jul 5, 2010 12:14:40 GMT
Hey all,
I know this subject has been covered before but I just wanted some specific question answering.
I have an old squier strat which I'm making into a coodercaster so first things first i need the pickups.
How much would you say is a fair price is for a teisco goldfoil and where is the best place to get one from?
Also which pickup do I need at the bridge as I've read some conflicting opinions, Ohahu lapsteel? Supro?
And where is the best place to source one of those from and roughly what price should I expect?
Also do you know of anyone around the Mancheater area that would install the pickups for me?
Sorry for so many questions but I've been thinking of doing this for ages and really need some advice so I can get it underway!
Thanks in advance.
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Post by pascal on Jul 5, 2010 13:38:16 GMT
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Post by honeyboy on Jul 5, 2010 14:02:41 GMT
Lollar Supro Pickup - $250 Forget trying to get a Teisco Goldfoil - you also need to find a Teisco pickup built before 1965, when the magnets and windings all changed, and there are very few about. Later Teisco pickups are rather more plentiful and almost indistinguishable in appearance (but not in sound). This is a sample of what the pre-65 Teisco pickups sound like.. - the fingerpicked electric is all Teisco Goldfoil.. Instead get a Lollar Single Coil - $135 - widely available and almost as sweet.. Besides the pickups, there are two other key components you need. You need to find a 48mm nut width wide C section Fender Japan neck, made only for one year in 1984. Difficult to source. As an alternative, you can buy a 1 3/4" neck from Warmoth, which is wide for a strat, but is obviously 1/8" narrower than the real thing. Make sure your body has the sprung tremolo block, the springs contribute substantially to the resonance of the sound. Quote from Ry Cooder "What makes the whole thing work are the tremolo springs in the back. In fact, if you hold the guitar to yourself and choke off the springs, there goes the sound." Speak to Jaime Campbell at The Creamery in Manchester. If he can't do the work for you, he will advise someone locally who can. If you speak to him very nicely, he might wind you one of his custom single coil pickups to use instead of the Lollar single coil.... Ask for it to be supplied in one of his custom H cases with Alnico 3 magnets..
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Post by 5slide on Jul 5, 2010 17:39:56 GMT
Thanks very much for the replies.
I didn't realise the neck needed changing, thanks for the links honeyboy, I'll contact Jamie and see if he can help.
I've just checked and it has got the tremolo springs in the back so at least that's something!
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Post by bananafist on Jul 5, 2010 19:51:51 GMT
I too was interested in building one of these, contacted Lollar in the US and was told they'd sell me a Supro style pickup, plus they make a Teisco foil type but don't show it on their site. No price quoted, but with duties, etc., I would guess not much change from £450 for the two. No-one has them in the UK currently that I could locate.
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Post by slidenpickit on Jul 5, 2010 20:14:39 GMT
There's a Teisco 1964 pickup on eBay. 250658585880 from an eBayer in Manchester. Its currently at £42.
Making a 'Coodercaster' is not a cheap undertaking. I have a 1 7/8'' width neck with a flat fretboard available, which I think matches the old Fender 'D' width option which used to be available as a custom option.
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Post by 5slide on Jul 5, 2010 21:44:56 GMT
Yeah that's the one I'm bidding on, looks like the real deal.
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Post by 5slide on Jul 9, 2010 16:28:41 GMT
Just to update you, I've just bought one of the 1964 teisco goldfoil pups from ebay, I got the 2nd one from a group of 3, payed £85 for it, the first one went for over £100.
I've just sent Jamie from The Creamery an email to see if he can help, thanks again for the contact honeyboy.
Chris - Is the neck you have what I need? And if so, are you looking to sell it?
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Post by slidenpickit on Jul 9, 2010 18:52:41 GMT
In my opinion one of the main parts of a guitar are the pickups. If you are happy with the neck you have and to keep costs down, you might consider trying that first.
I think the pole piece spacing on the Lollar pickup is fairly wide but you can angle the pickup for narrower spacings.
The neck I have is a 1 7/8" (47.6 mm) and also has a flat fretboard (not sure what radius the coodercaster one is). It is hand made from a 20 year old piece of birdseye maple with a cocobolo fretboard and was quite expensive (but cheaper than Warmoth). You are welcome to try it for the cost of postage (and back if you don't like it). I'll e-mail you some photos if you like.
Regards
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Post by 5slide on Jul 10, 2010 11:03:11 GMT
If the pickups will work with the neck that I already have I'll keep that, although it does feel a bit narrow for slide.
Many thanks for the offer Chris, can you post a couple of pics, it sounds nice I may well consider it if it will make playing easier.
Thanks.
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Post by slidenpickit on Jul 11, 2010 13:38:36 GMT
Honeyboy did explain the posting thing but I'm useless. I could e-mail you some photos if you like though.
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Post by 5slide on Jul 11, 2010 15:40:14 GMT
If you could send a few pics to benjchall@hotmail.com that would be great - thanks!
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Post by slidenpickit on Jul 11, 2010 19:31:56 GMT
Hi 5slide,
Just for your information I read an interview with Ry Cooder some time ago and I'm almost certain he said that his Leopard Strat has a Fender C width 1 3/4" (45mm) neck on it. So, if you want to be super accurate and have a guitar like his the neck should be 1 3/4" wide and have a 70's large headstock.
Some info from Fender.com
There is occasional confusion about C, U and V neck profile designations and A, B, C and D neck width designations. From the early '60s to the early '70s, Fender referred specifically to the nut width of its instrument necks using the letters A (1 ½"), B (1 5/8"), C (1 ¾") and D (1 7/8"). These letters were stamped on the butt-end of the necks and had nothing to do with neck profile.
Regards
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